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<DIV>Thanks.. I was interested in the particular topic in every case I attended,
if only to learn, and didn’t really talk about other topics.. But for the si-sig
what they told me specifically is that sometimes they talk about vulnerabilities
in systems, or may have something where a password to a private system is shown
to make things simple, and as a result if you weren’t working as a sysadmin,
they didn’t really trust you with this information.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rob</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=quarsaw@gmail.com
href="mailto:quarsaw@gmail.com">Mike Costanzo</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lilug-dev-sig@lists.lilug.org
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Lilug-dev-sig] Locating the group once at
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completely understand. I can't speak for Si-sig because I personally have never
been to one. I think the selectivity is only applied when it comes to what the
group will talk about. If you are a gardener and you want to come to a general
meeting to learn about Linux or to Dev-sig to learn about programming, you will
be welcomed. But if you want everyone to spend their time talking about
gardening, then you are in the wrong place.
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<DIV>I think the idea behind the sigs is that they provide a forum for people
with interests in those specialties to get down to nitty-gritty details if they
want. Whereas Lilug general meetings make an attempt to provide content that is
useful for experts and non-experts alike. So, I think someone saying "this is
too technical" may be a valid criticism at a general meeting, but not so much at
a sig meeting.</DIV>
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<DIV>-Mike</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:05 PM, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:robwilkens@gmail.com">robwilkens@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV>p.s. part of the reason I asked was that when I went to a si-sig meeting
years ago, just once, they said it was preferred that only sysadmins attend
those meetings, though technically because they accept charitable status they
could not turn away anyone... But what that meant to me was that you’re
welcome to come, but you’re not really welcome. In all honesty, all the
people at that meeting were very friendly anyway, and I almost walked away
with someone suggesting I apply for a job where they worked (not sure where
now, one of the labs).. </DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://lilug.org/wiki/Devsig"
target=_blank>http://lilug.org/wiki/Devsig</A> also says “D<FONT
face="Times New Roman">evsig is for developers of applications on Linux or
other open OS platforms. Meetings are informal and friendly. “ and as a
result I didn’t feel comfortable attending if the meeting wasn’t “for”
me. I’d love to learn either way.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=quarsaw@gmail.com href="mailto:quarsaw@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Mike Costanzo</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:32 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lilug-dev-sig@lists.lilug.org
href="mailto:lilug-dev-sig@lists.lilug.org" target=_blank>LILUG Developer SIG
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Lilug-dev-sig] Locating the group once at
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<DIV class=h5>Hi Rob,
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<DIV>there is no need to be "considered" anything to come to a meeting. All
you really need to be is interested. If you think hearing about the topics
would be enjoyable then I say it is worth coming out. To me, a big part of the
idea behind the group is to promote learning. The meetings aren't about gurus
sitting around and congratulating each other on how awesome they are. </DIV>
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<DIV>The Dev-sig meetings are really informal. In my experience, we end up at
tables just to the left of the door by the front glass (this is a convenient
place to plug in your laptop). Dev-sig is a good place to talk about your
project and what you are trying to achieve and maybe pick up some suggestions.
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<DIV>Directions for all the meetings are here: <A
href="http://lilug.org/wiki/Directions"
target=_blank>http://lilug.org/wiki/Directions</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Hope to see you,</DIV>
<DIV>-Mike Costanzo</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:50 AM, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>I’m wondering, if my primary use of Linux is on an android phone (I had
an install of linux on my laptop but it’s not booting at the moment and
needs I presume a reinstall...) am I considered a linux user...</DIV>
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<DIV>And if I just started experimenting with writing apps for the android
platform (I started on a tetris game yesterday and am almost done with the
core functionality, it’s just a matter of trudging thru the rest), and that
development is done in Java, am I considered an open source OS application
developer? </DIV>
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<DIV>If the answer is yes, I’d like to come to the meeting thursday, and
maybe even tonight’s main LILUG meeting, if I can find time and find
them.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thursday night more particularly because as luck would have it I’m home
alone that night (my parents have a christmas party in the city) so I might
as well get out of the house.. I honestly don’t have much planned for
tonight either other than maybe watching the biggest loser finale, but
that’ll be on io’s free NBC Prime Time on Demand service the next day if I
really want to see it and I’m disabled/don’t work-for-a-living.</DIV>
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<DIV>The only concern, or main concern, is that the meeting is at a Panera
and I’m not sure I’ll recognize any of the people at the meeting as I
haven’t gone to one of these in about 2 years... Back then they were
at some office conference room. Will I recognize any of the old faces
there, and if not when I get to Panera, how will I know I’m at the right
place?</DIV>
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