[Lilug] optonline router

[odinson]

 	Moral and legal question is an old one.  Does a service 
company have the right to force whatever software or hardware they want on 
you?  The legal answer is by contract yes, but morally no.  IMO the law 
should allow for a protocol and how you communicate on it not the gear. 
Exceptions have been made for electrical wires because a bad main breaker 
(etc) can kill a utility technician.  The harm is irreversible.

 	People used to own the airspace on their property 'to the 
heavens.'  Which has since been chopped down to navigate-able airspace.
  Airwaves can definitely pass though your property, but originating 
from equipment on your property that isn't providing a service you are 
using may be different.

 	Do you use cablevisions wifi service?

 	This may be the key to drone cases too which often broadcast as 
well as receive.  Lots of well off people don't want the paparazzi to have 
the legal right to broadcast video from a drone hovering over their patio 
(legal airspace right now) without explicit permission.  The wifi 
broadcast seems to be the same situation.

 	Eventually, legally,  I'd expect some sort of external buffer zone 
(50ft?) to be set up around both not explicitly authorized rf 
transmission around private property (think high rise buildings) and 
airspace in all directions from any object natural or manmade.

 	Of course cablevision could solve this by paying you a fee for the 
use of your property, then in NY you have agreed by accepting the payment 
(part of your bill)

IANAL, but strange bedfellows are interesting.

Matt


On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Rocco Laudadio wrote:

> I've dealt with these routers before. They are 100% operated by
> Cablevision. You have no actual access to it. You log into your Optimum
> account on their website and adjust the settings from their servers. I
> would never trust one of these personally.
>
> As far as the public WiFi hotspot, from what I've read about it, they
> actually do a good job keeping that separate from your private network. It
> gives your personal ip bandwidth priority and will throttle the public WiFi
> if it has to to keep your data unaffected.  It even blacklists the mac
> address of any device that connects to your personal wifi so that you can't
> accidentally connection to the throttled public one. Cablevision is being
> sued over it right now, but they did such a good job separating the systems
> that the only thing they might be able to get them on is the extra
> electricity draw.
> My wife called cablevision to complain that her computer was slow and
> they told her that the reason is our 5 year old cable modem and router
> (and not the windows malware). They were very eager to send us a free
> new modem and router. I installed it and needed some help from tech
> support. It made me realize that they have total control over the router
> and knew which devices were connected to it. If they can log into the
> router, who else can?
> I also noticed that there is now a optimumwifi hotspot near my house. Is
> that my router providing it? There was just a story on slashdot about
> some UK ISP doing that.
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