[Lilug] The insanity of all biometric data.

Robert Schoenfeld frank_james at earthlink.net
Tue Aug 9 02:56:40 PDT 2016


Is this how the Borg started?

Bob

odinson wrote:
>
> IMO due to CRISPR 'Thicker than Blood' could happen ANY time now.
>
> Yeah really.  2016.  So nanites are no longer off topic for an open 
> source forum, any more than personal computers were off topic in 1979, 
> or SWIFT in 2010.
>
> Glad you enjoyed my ideas.  :)  It's only logical that widely 
> proliferated diseases have advantages under some circumstances. Please 
> let me know if it's applicable to your life, benifical or detrimental.
>
> Matt
>
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Robert Wilkens wrote:
>
>> Personally, to me that would be less frightening, or at least equally
>> frightening, to my previous 6 months in terms of 'schizophrenia' 
>> symptoms
>> (schizophrenia as featured as a recent topic on your civgene site).  My
>> theory was that it had something more to do with nanorobots than 
>> genetics,
>> in that it felt like people were reading every passing thought i had and
>> reacting to it out loud.  Were it not nanorobotic, it was spiritual.
>>
>> I'm no longer in 'that' place as the medication is 'now working' as 
>> of 1.5
>> weeks ago.
>>
>> Though i realize the idea of tiny robots in the brain which transmit 
>> your
>> thoughts to other people/systems is really a tangent from where you were
>> going.
>>
>> It is my understanding that whenever you do a blood test, the testing
>> companies often do sequence your DNA without your knowledge for whatever
>> nefarious purposes they do it for (or maybe towards drug development or
>> something).  I believe those companies have your identifying information
>> they put with the sample they take.  So I don't think there's too 
>> much you
>> can do about them doing this as is.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2016 2:12 PM, "odinson" <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>        Rob brought up interesting point and I thought the discussion
>> should have a separate thread.  The problem of bio-metrics is that a 
>> single
>> database breach renders your body in a lifelong 'compromised' 
>> subclass to
>> other human beings.
>>
>>        This is increasingly important as genetic scanning and 
>> modification
>> approaches TRIVIAL costs.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_genome_sequencing#/media
>> /File:Historic_cost_of_sequencing_a_human_genome.svg
>>
>>        This problem is brought up by the best genetic pros, pre CRISPR,
>> but AFAICT not decisively answered.  As it becomes trivial to implement
>> genetic scanning, and human genomes begin to pepper data volumes of all
>> security qualities.  Is a de-identified genome sequence itself a 
>> security
>> risk to it's genetic owner?
>>
>>        Put another way, what happens when a sufficient variety of 
>> genetic
>> tests/markers are available that a DNA sequence file is statistically
>> indistinguishable from a fingerprint.  When physical properties of the
>> person can reliably IDENTIFY the sequence. 1-to-1.  No swab needed.  
>> This
>> will be here in months not years (if it's not already here)  and 
>> could be
>> crippling you for life both in authentication class, and in privacy
>> (getting insurance, profiling your behavior, etc)
>>
>> Something to chew on.
>>
>> Matt
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>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>> President and founder of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, 
>> http://www.lilug.org
>> My theory; Psychopaths precede the conscience,
>> http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com
>> My maker blog; "The modness", http://themodness.wordpress.com
>> Scifi book; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
>> "If we win another such battle against the Romans, we will be completely
>> lost."
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> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
> President and founder of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, 
> http://www.lilug.org
> My theory; Psychopaths precede the conscience, 
> http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com
> My maker blog; "The modness", http://themodness.wordpress.com
> Scifi book; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
> "If we win another such battle against the Romans, we will be 
> completely lost."
>     -- King Pyrrhus of Epirus
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