[Lilug] Read wikileaks vault7

Robert Wilkens robwilkens42 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 7 17:47:53 PST 2017


It seems their computer science classes leave out the ethics lectures.

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On Mar 7, 2017 8:45 PM, "Andrew T. Stager" <andrew1523 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel like we've known all this for years, I was kind of hoping for some
> new juicy stuff but it kind of just seems like the same old "yeah we can
> root anything".
>
> My personal website is constantly bombarded by Russian and Chinese IPs
> everyday. I don't think anything of it. Their schools are much better with
> computer science at a young age. Many of their citizens are poor, it
> doesn't cost anything to sit inside and poke around people's boxes.
>
> On Mar 7, 2017 18:35, "Orrin Edwards" <lilug at orrin.fastmail.net> wrote:
>
>> The link to read it all is at wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/
>>
>> On a similar subject, I have a small personal website at orrin.org. For
>> weeks my web logs have been
>> showing many 'HEAD' (rather than GET} requests, all coming from the
>> Russian Federation. I have blocked
>> the offending ISP's so now they get a '403', but they continue.
>>
>> What could they gain by only getting website header? Nothing there but a
>> couple of normal header lines and a style.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Orrin
>> http://orrin.org/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: odinson <odinson at warcloud.net>
>> To: lilug at lilug.org
>> Cc: lilug-si-sig at lilug.org
>> Subject: [Lilug] Read wikileaks vault7
>> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:47:41 -0500 (EST)
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> This makes official many things long speculated on.
>>
>> The CIA has been sitting on multiple zero day exploits for every
>> operating system including Android and Linux.
>>
>> The CIA has had a remote car hacking program since at least 2014. (beat
>> em, 2013 oh yeah.)
>>
>> The CIA has hacked household devices to make them appear to be off but to
>> turn them into remote recording devices.
>>
>> The CIA has extensive guidelines for writing viruses that can't be traced
>> back to it.
>>
>> Something horrendous lurks in COMODO.
>>
>> Interestingly about the only thing that doesn't seem to be popped is
>> bitcoin.
>>
>> Two specific things come to mind.
>>
>> If the CIA is doing it, it is reasonable to expect every country with a
>> similar budget (China, Russia, EU?) to do the same.  If not in the past
>> most certainly in the future.
>>
>> This completely changes opsec computational and physical.  The entire
>> internet of things is now suspect in a non theoretical way.  Vehicles are
>> now suspect in a non theoretical way.  Computers should be considered
>> owned or safe based on traffic patterns, not just 'up to patch,
>> unconfigured services off.'  IMO air gapping critical computers should be
>> considered.  Perhaps custom compilation.
>>
>> As for the folks who said this was not possible, in hindsight, what
>> exactly were you defending?
>>
>> Heads up.
>>
>> Matt
>>
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