<div dir="auto">It seems their computer science classes leave out the ethics lectures.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Sent from Tablet</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 7, 2017 8:45 PM, "Andrew T. Stager" <<a href="mailto:andrew1523@gmail.com">andrew1523@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I feel like we've known all this for years, I was kind of hoping for some new juicy stuff but it kind of just seems like the same old "yeah we can root anything". <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My personal website is constantly bombarded by Russian and Chinese IPs everyday. I don't think anything of it. Their schools are much better with computer science at a young age. Many of their citizens are poor, it doesn't cost anything to sit inside and poke around people's boxes. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 7, 2017 18:35, "Orrin Edwards" <<a href="mailto:lilug@orrin.fastmail.net" target="_blank">lilug@orrin.fastmail.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div><div style="font-family:Arial">The link to read it all is at <a href="https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/" target="_blank">wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/</a><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">On a similar subject, I have a small personal website at <a href="http://orrin.org" target="_blank">orrin.org</a>. For weeks my web logs have been<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">showing many 'HEAD' (rather than GET} requests, all coming from the Russian Federation. I have blocked<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">the offending ISP's so now they get a '403', but they continue.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">What could they gain by only getting website header? Nothing there but a couple of normal header lines and a style.<br></div>
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<div>From: odinson <<a href="mailto:odinson@warcloud.net" target="_blank">odinson@warcloud.net</a>><br></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:lilug@lilug.org" target="_blank">lilug@lilug.org</a><br></div>
<div>Cc: <a href="mailto:lilug-si-sig@lilug.org" target="_blank">lilug-si-sig@lilug.org</a><br></div>
<div>Subject: [Lilug] Read wikileaks vault7<br></div>
<div>Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:47:41 -0500 (EST)<br></div>
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<div>Hi<br></div>
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<div>This makes official many things long speculated on.<br></div>
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<div>The CIA has been sitting on multiple zero day exploits for every<br></div>
<div>operating system including Android and Linux.<br></div>
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<div>The CIA has had a remote car hacking program since at least 2014. (beat<br></div>
<div>em, 2013 oh yeah.)<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The CIA has hacked household devices to make them appear to be off but to<br></div>
<div>turn them into remote recording devices.<br></div>
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<div>The CIA has extensive guidelines for writing viruses that can't be traced<br></div>
<div>back to it.<br></div>
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<div>Something horrendous lurks in COMODO.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Interestingly about the only thing that doesn't seem to be popped is<br></div>
<div>bitcoin.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Two specific things come to mind.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If the CIA is doing it, it is reasonable to expect every country with a<br></div>
<div>similar budget (China, Russia, EU?) to do the same. If not in the past<br></div>
<div>most certainly in the future.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>This completely changes opsec computational and physical. The entire<br></div>
<div>internet of things is now suspect in a non theoretical way. Vehicles are<br></div>
<div>now suspect in a non theoretical way. Computers should be considered<br></div>
<div>owned or safe based on traffic patterns, not just 'up to patch,<br></div>
<div>unconfigured services off.' IMO air gapping critical computers should be<br></div>
<div>considered. Perhaps custom compilation.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>As for the folks who said this was not possible, in hindsight, what<br></div>
<div>exactly were you defending?<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Heads up.<br></div>
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<div>Matt<br></div>
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<div>My theory; Psychopaths precede the conscience,<br></div>
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<div>My maker blog; "The modness", <a href="http://themodness.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.co<wbr>m</a><br></div>
<div>Scifi book; "Thicker Than Blood" <a href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com" target="_blank">http://www.thickerthanbloodthe<wbr>book.com</a><br></div>
<div>Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.<br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/" target="_blank">http://www.warcloud.net/~odins<wbr>on/us/</a><br></div>
<div>Monogamy, AIDS, and drug policy slow population growth to a crawl.<br></div>
<div>Intellectual property slows science and culture to a crawl.<br></div>
<div>Operating system features slow computers to a crawl.<br></div>
<div>Suburbia and taxes slow industry to a crawl.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Only babies and slaves crawl that much. If you think I act like a baby,<br></div>
<div>consider the alternative.<br></div>
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