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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/15/2017 09:26 AM, Chuck Reeves
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">If the spread of interests are not just linux but
        also dev tools, I need to start coming more.  Is there a
        published calendar of when the group meets? <br>
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    <br>
    Hi Chuck - great to hear!<br>
    <br>
    LILUG meets on the 2nd Tuesday of every month, 8-10 PM, at LISTNet's
    Digital Ballpark in Plainview.  We try to publish the meeting topics
    on our website, lilug.org, in advance (and on this mailing list). 
    We've been making a concerted effort to get more of our meeting
    topics planned out in advance (as you can see :-) ).<br>
    <br>
    Hope to see you at a meeting soon!<br>
    <br>
    For those that haven't been to a meeting in this location yet and/or
    need further directions, you can find them also on the website.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Matt S<br>
    LILUG Secretary<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM Robert Wilkens
          (Rob) <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:robwilkens42@gmail.com">robwilkens42@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Also--- Looking at that new list, if
                I have more votes, I’m interested in</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Modern C (I knew it pre-1998 but I
                understand the standard has changed since then, I mean
                it’s been 20 years really since I’ve programmed in it!)</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Python (I keep wanting to learn it,
                but never have a project idea, and I’m more of a
                hands-on learner)</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986"
                  target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
                  </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:odinson@warcloud.net" target="_blank">odinson</a><br>
                  <b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 12, 2017 5:46 PM</p>
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                  <b>To: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:lilug@lists.lilug.org" target="_blank">LILUG
                    Mailing List</a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lilug] What is the perfect
                  meeting topic?</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">                Thanks for the link!</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">                OK great so we've got</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Linux subsystem running on Windows   
                - 1 </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">SELinux
                101                                                        
                - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">C/C++/data structures  
                101                         - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Python with C/C++/data
                structures          - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Python 101             
                                          - 2</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Ruby 101               
                                            - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Chef                   
                                 - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Android development    
                                               - 1</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">So far looks like python is winning. 
                I have to admit this list is not </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">what I expected.  Awesome!</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Matt</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 12 May 2017, Y. Lin wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> I like to share this link
                because the subject might have practical value soon:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> 18 things you should know about
                using Linux tools in Windows 10</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cio.com/article/3195905/windows/18-things-you-should-know-about-using-linux-tools-in-windows-10.html"
                  target="_blank">http://www.cio.com/article/3195905/windows/18-things-you-should-know-about-using-linux-tools-in-windows-10.html</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> 18 things you should know about
                using Linux tools in Windows 10<<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cio.com/article/3195905/windows/18-things-you-should-know-about-using-linux-tools-in-windows-10.html"
                  target="_blank">http://www.cio.com/article/3195905/windows/18-things-you-should-know-about-using-linux-tools-in-windows-10.html</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.cio.com" target="_blank">www.cio.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Windows 10 can now run (many)
                Linux binaries. Yes, really. Here’s what you need to
                know to make the most of the Windows Subsystem for
                Linux.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> ________________________________</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> From: Lilug <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:lilug-bounces@lists.lilug.org"
                  target="_blank">lilug-bounces@lists.lilug.org</a>>
                on behalf of odinson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:odinson@warcloud.net" target="_blank">odinson@warcloud.net</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 5:54
                PM</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> To: LILUG Mailing List</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Subject: Re: [Lilug] What is the
                perfect meeting topic?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Hi Chuck and Jorg</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> I would love to hear a SELinux
                Howto!</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Jorg can we pencil you in for
                June and Chuck can we pencil you in for</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> July?  We've had pretty severe
                problems with collisions recently.  Like to</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> avoid it happening again.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Thank you very much both!</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Matt</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> On Fri, 12 May 2017, Chuck
                Reeves wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> I know I have not been to a
                LILUG meeting in a really long time.  I can</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> give my "How to Use SELinux"
                now that I'm working 100% remote.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at
                12:32 PM Lee Wilbur <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:leew@multiverseit.com" target="_blank">leew@multiverseit.com</a>>
                wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> I'd say separate the
                topics. I'd love an intro to C/C++ session too. One</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> one month and then one a
                month or two later. (Don't actually mean next</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> month, not that is
                object to that)</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *Sent from my LG G5, an
                AT&T 4G LTE smartphone*</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> ------ Original
                message------</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *From: *Jorg Kewisch</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *Date: *Fri, May 12,
                2017 11:28 AM</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *To: *LILUG Mailing
                List;</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *Cc: *</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> *Subject:*Re: [Lilug]
                What is the perfect meeting topic?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> On 05/11/2017 10:14 PM,
                Lee Wilbur wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> What else would
                people like to learn about?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Make the meetings
                "classes" - I'd find it VERY useful have a Python or</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> Ruby or other language
                "101" that treats me like I know nothing of this</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> scripting language and
                has small projects we can build along with an</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> instructor - "everyone,
                build a script that pings a set of IPs listed in a</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> file" - now follow
                along... practical lesson(s) that can start people</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> actually doing as
                opposed to knowing what can be done...</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> My .02</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> -Lee</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> -----Original
                Message-----</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> I was thinking about
                that for a while. It might be good for me to get</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> some teaching experience
                with a well meaning audience.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> I program in C/C++ and
                PYTHON, which combines the best of two worlds.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> Which language to teach?
                C has a bunch of important concepts (arrays,</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> pointers) which PYTHON
                is hiding from you. So learning C gives you a</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> better education,
                because you understand what python is doing for you.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> PYTHON is much more
                useful to the average IT girl or guy after the class.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> I wonder if one could do
                both in one class and not confuse everybody.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> What do you think?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> I could also give a talk
                about backyard beekeeping (a little but</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> off-topic).</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> Jorg</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>
                _______________________________________________</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> Lilug mailing list</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Lilug@lists.lilug.org" target="_blank">Lilug@lists.lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://lists.lilug.org/listinfo.cgi/lilug-lilug.org"
                  target="_blank">http://lists.lilug.org/listinfo.cgi/lilug-lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>>
                _______________________________________________</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> Lilug mailing list</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Lilug@lists.lilug.org" target="_blank">Lilug@lists.lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://lists.lilug.org/listinfo.cgi/lilug-lilug.org"
                  target="_blank">http://lists.lilug.org/listinfo.cgi/lilug-lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Matthew Newhall, <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:M.A.Newhall@warcloud.net" target="_blank">M.A.Newhall@warcloud.net</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY
                Farmingdale</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> President and founder of LILUG; 
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:president@lilug.org" target="_blank">president@lilug.org</a>,
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lilug.org"
                  target="_blank">http://www.lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> My theory; Psychopaths precede
                the conscience, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com"
                  target="_blank">http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Civilization is the Logic of
                Compassion<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com/"
                  target="_blank">http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com/</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com"
                  target="_blank">civgene.matthewnewhall.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> In a previous civgene, I
                presented a series of axioms that led to the cult test.
                Most societies operate at least partly on faith. Stating
                assumed truths that ...</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> My maker blog; "The modness", <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://themodness.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://s0.wp.com/i/blank.jpg" target="_blank">https://s0.wp.com/i/blank.jpg</a>]<<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://themodness.wordpress.com/"
                  target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.com/</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> themodness<<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://themodness.wordpress.com/"
                  target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.com/</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://themodness.wordpress.com" target="_blank">themodness.wordpress.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Must... improve... thing....</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Scifi book; "Thicker Than
                Blood"  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com"
                  target="_blank">http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Thicker Than Blood, by M. A.
                Newhall<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com/"
                  target="_blank">http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com/</a>></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com"
                  target="_blank">www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> A science fiction thriller set
                in the near future. It is about the introduction of
                nanotechnology into contemporary American society.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and
                Maxximus's father.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/"
                  target="_blank">http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> "The greatest obstacle to
                discovering the shape of the earth, the continents</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> and the ocean was not ignorance
                but the illusion of knowledge."</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">> -- Daniel J. Bornstein</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Matthew Newhall, <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:M.A.Newhall@warcloud.net" target="_blank">M.A.Newhall@warcloud.net</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY
                Farmingdale</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">President and founder of LILUG;  <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:president@lilug.org" target="_blank">president@lilug.org</a>,
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lilug.org"
                  target="_blank">http://www.lilug.org</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">My theory; Psychopaths precede the
                conscience, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com"
                  target="_blank">http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">My maker blog; "The modness", <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://themodness.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Scifi book; "Thicker Than Blood"  <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com"
                  target="_blank">http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Giselle's husband, Sebastian and
                Maxximus's father.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/"
                  target="_blank">http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">"The greatest obstacle to discovering
                the shape of the earth, the continents</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">and the ocean was not ignorance but
                the illusion of knowledge."</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">-- Daniel J. Bornstein</p>
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