<div dir="auto">Also, it's interesting you kind of talked about open source hardware as a 'new' thing<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In Feb 2001 "computer graphics" magazine, an ACM publication, this was written about me in the public policy column:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(Excerpt, which i feel free to quote because it's basically my words)</div><div dir="auto">"Wilkens' initial query was that if software could be considered a form of speech and hence protected by the United States Constitution from government control, perhaps a description of a hardware design could also be considered speech and enjoy the same protection."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In other words, I was kind of saying, open source hardware design "should" be a thing in 2001. Of course, 3 months after that was published, i found myself working on a military base, so ... maybe someone read that. I wound up disabled unfortunantely, because when i took that job i couldn't get a doctor in maryland who was accepting new patients at the time.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">==</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Was surprised that the "DEVOPS" talk was less technical and more 'strategic' or 'political'. :-) I watched more than half of it now.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Sent from Tablet</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 5, 2017 8:21 PM, "Robert Wilkens" <<a href="mailto:robwilkens42@gmail.com">robwilkens42@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">re:DEVOPS</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>Watched first 10 minutes...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Made me more cynical about the corporate world :) Just the waterfall model being seen that way rather than the way it was taught to us in school.....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then i remembered, until Trump forces me off disability (i hear he might) i don't have to worry about that. So I'm holding off watching rest of video for now (maybe during daytime i'll watch more).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm hoping i can force myself to show up to next meeting, it won't be easy.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">---<br>Sent from Tablet</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 5, 2017 7:28 PM, "odinson" <<a href="mailto:odinson@warcloud.net" target="_blank">odinson@warcloud.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey Rob<br>
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Email me offline with any questions. <a href="mailto:odinson@warcloud.net" target="_blank">odinson@warcloud.net</a>. I try to spare the list from civgene. Last LILUG meeting is subject is devops, open source and the complexity horizon. Some ideas did come from civgene. Really applied philosophy of it so I talked very little about it directly.<br>
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I know the president of LILUG is involved in Civgene.<br>
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i was watching the YouTube video from Mar 25<br>
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I'm interested in learning more about it, I checked and i seem to have the<br>
empathy genes.<br>
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Is there a separate mailing list or the like?<br>
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A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale<br>
President and founder of LILUG; <a href="mailto:president@lilug.org" target="_blank">president@lilug.org</a>, <a href="http://www.lilug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.lilug.org</a><br>
My theory; Psychopaths precede the conscience, <a href="http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://civgene.matthewnewhall.<wbr>com</a><br>
My maker blog; "The modness", <a href="http://themodness.wordpress.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://themodness.wordpress.co<wbr>m</a><br>
Scifi book; "Thicker Than Blood" <a href="http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.thickerthanbloodthe<wbr>book.com</a><br>
Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.<br>
<a href="http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.warcloud.net/~odins<wbr>on/us/</a><br>
"One of the fantastic things, I always say, is that the digital world is like<br>
Galapagos Islands for the understanding of evolutionary psychology. The<br>
little foibles of human behavior that crop up online. Are very very telling<br>
in what the what deeper human mind really cares about. What it finds<br>
attractive, more important what it finds repellent. The system one brain<br>
(Earlier quote "primarily the subconscious") is more about the avoidance<br>
of catastrophe than the attainment of perfection." --Rory Sutherland<br>
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