[Lilug Planning] [Lilug] Topic next meeting

odinson odinson at warcloud.net
Mon May 12 07:20:58 PDT 2014


Hi

 	OK great.  See you then.

 	Thanks again.

Matt

On Mon, 12 May 2014, Sean Carnes wrote:

> Hey Matt!
>
> I am ready for tomorrow's talk, I think the whiteboard and the laptop plugged 
> into the projector will work fine.
>
> If anything comes up where I need something else I'll be sure to let you know 
> before tomorrow.
>
> See you tomorrow evening!
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On 05/11/2014 06:15 PM, odinson wrote:
>> Hi Sean
>>
>>     Are you ready for Tuesdays talk?  We have a VGA based projector at the 
>> Woodbury auditorium and a white board.  Do you think you'll be needing 
>> anything else?
>>
>>     Thanks again, and thanks to Sagi for setting this up.
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Sagi Brody wrote:
>> 
>>> Its Sean Carnes, and I've also CC'd him on this email
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sagi Brody | Chief Technical Officer @ Webair.com
>>> 
>>> Webair Internet Development Inc. | 501 Franklin Ave | Garden City, NY 
>>> 11530
>>> Office 516.938.4100, ext. 112  | Fax 516.938.5100
>>> sagi.brody at webair.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Matt Surico <surico at mail.buoy.com> wrote:
>>> 
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>>>> On 04/23/2014 04:12 PM, odinson wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK sounds like a done deal.  Matt please pencil it in. Rocco's
>>>>> talk on the lidmug server setup may happen in June instead.
>>>> 
>>>> Can do!
>>>> 
>>>> Sagi, when you get a chance, can you get me Sean's last name so I
>>>> properly credit him on the wiki announcement.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you see my feeble attempt at creating said announcement, feel
>>>> free to send me alternate verbiage to make it sound more exciting!  I
>>>> hope to have something posted by tomorrow (Thurs) evening.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Matt S.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you both!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Matt Surico wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 04/23/2014 02:13 PM, Sagi Brody wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Matt - Sounds perfect. I spoke to Sean here who is our in
>>>>>>>> house Ansible guru and he'd be happy to talk about it at the
>>>>>>>> next meeting so you can pen it in for sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where were you guys 6 months ago? LOL :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just spent a bunch of time getting myself up to speed on Ansible
>>>>> as it's just begun to be used in our company.  We're just about to
>>>>> start using it for config management of many of our production
>>>>> servers (it's been piloted in our dev shop).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seriously, I do look forward to this as a LILUG topic - always good
>>>>> to hear about it from someone else after just getting started on
>>>>> learning something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sagi for the suggestion on the topic and to Sean who will
>>>>> be able to do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers, Matt S.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *Sagi Brody* /|/ /Chief Technical Officer @ Webair.com
>>>>>>>> <http://Webair.com>/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Webair Internet Development Inc. | 501 Franklin Ave | Garden
>>>>>>>> City, NY  11530 Office 516.938.4100, ext. 112  | Fax
>>>>>>>> 516.938.5100 sagi.brody at webair.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:sagi.brody at webair.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2014, at 12:45 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net
>>>>>>>> <mailto:odinson at warcloud.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sagi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This sounds really great.  I like your other topic too, but
>>>>>>>>> it seems far more relevant to professional admins than
>>>>>>>>> anyone else. Granted Ansible is also, it COULD be used for
>>>>>>>>> dev/science, etc.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How about ansible for the May LILUG talk?  Is that OK?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Then maybe troubleshooting as a service at SISIG in
>>>>>>>>> whatever summer month works for you?  That's more of the
>>>>>>>>> pro group.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for offering.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Sagi Brody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also... We are using Ansible here to deploy playbooks
>>>>>>>>>> for Linux servers/instances. Its similar to
>>>>>>>>> chef/puppet/saltstack
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> see www.ansible.com <http://www.ansible.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I could have one of my sys admins talk about ansible, how
>>>>>>>>>> its used, code examples etc...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Its very linux related. That may be more appropriate.
>>>>>>>>>> LMK
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sagi Brody | Chief Technical Officer @ Webair.com
>>>>>>>>>> <http://Webair.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Webair Internet Development Inc. | 501 Franklin Ave |
>>>>>>>>>> Garden City, NY 11530 Office 516.938.4100, ext. 112  |
>>>>>>>>>> Fax 516.938.5100 sagi.brody at webair.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sagi.brody at webair.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Sagi Brody
>>>>>>>>>> <sagi at webair.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this is related, but I have a talk
>>>>>>>>>>> regarding troubleshooting as a service, i could turn
>>>>>>>>>>> the following into a 30 min talk..
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The talk is geared towards hosting/infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>> environments, but its related to any complex systems,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially ones running linux..
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As the standardized offerings for hosting and cloud
>>>>>>>>>>> providers become more complex and interdependent, so
>>>>>>>>>>> too do the requirements to properly manage and
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot them. The ability for technical teams to
>>>>>>>>>>> quickly localize bottlenecks, capacity limits,
>>>>>>>>>>> application issues, and other problems is now a key
>>>>>>>>>>> factor for a provider?s success. Whereas
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting was considered a soft skill in the
>>>>>>>>>>> past, hosters must acknowledge and nourish the
>>>>>>>>>>> importance of this most important ability. This session
>>>>>>>>>>> will present background information, case studies of
>>>>>>>>>>> specific events, and recommendations for improving root
>>>>>>>>>>> cause analysis of common complex managed hosting
>>>>>>>>>>> environment issues. The talk will draw upon experience
>>>>>>>>>>> of Webair?s own infrastructure and customer
>>>>>>>>>>> configurations, including complex environments with
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of services. The session will cover
>>>>>>>>>>> the following topics: A brief history: Troubleshooting
>>>>>>>>>>> of the past was as simple as 1,2,3?reboot. Today?s
>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure has greatly increased in complexity, but
>>>>>>>>>>> our approach to issue resolution has not. Examples of
>>>>>>>>>>> common complex infrastructures found in managed hosting
>>>>>>>>>>> companies of today and an acknowledgement to the amount
>>>>>>>>>>> of layers we?ve added to single customer
>>>>>>>>>>> configurations. Example: Redundant cloud firewalls,
>>>>>>>>>>> redundant cloud load balancers, load balanced cloud web
>>>>>>>>>>> instances, cloud database instances, cloud memory cache
>>>>>>>>>>> instances, cloud application instances, hybrid
>>>>>>>>>>> physical servers, NFS cloud storage, and CDN. Diagrams
>>>>>>>>>>> will be shown of this and other configurations. How to
>>>>>>>>>>> turn your technical teams into expert troubleshooters.
>>>>>>>>>>> Expert troubleshooters can isolate and resolve issues
>>>>>>>>>>> faster than admins who may have far more knowledge and
>>>>>>>>>>> experience of the effected systems. Localization: How
>>>>>>>>>>> to quickly and effectively isolate the problem and
>>>>>>>>>>> remove background noise. Reproduction: The importance
>>>>>>>>>>> of being able to reproduce an issue to effectively
>>>>>>>>>>> resolve it. Modification: The proper way to fix an
>>>>>>>>>>> issue. In practice: Case studies of actual outages
>>>>>>>>>>> events, how they were misdiagnosed, why, and what could
>>>>>>>>>>> have been done better. Monitoring: How to configure
>>>>>>>>>>> customer specific monitoring to allow your teams to
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately zero in on the layer causing the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>> Misdiagnoses: The short and long term impact of
>>>>>>>>>>> improperly diagnosing issues, technically, and for your
>>>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, <image002.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sagi Brody | Chief Technology Officer @Webair.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Webair Internet Development Inc. | 501 Franklin Ave |
>>>>>>>>>>> Garden City, NY  11530 Office 516.938.4100, ext. 112  |
>>>>>>>>>>> Fax 516.938.5100 sagi.brody at webair.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still looking for a definitive topic for next meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5/12. Really like to hear from a LILUGer.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale President
>>>>>>>>>>>> of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> My blog "The Civilization Gene"
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com Author; "Thicker
>>>>>>>>>>>> Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/ If we are
>>>>>>>>>>>> reincarnated after we die, and time in between lives
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not linear, who to say we are not all the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> person.
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net> A.S. in Computer Science,
>>>>>>>>> SUNY Farmingdale President of LILUG; president at lilug.org
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:president at lilug.org>, http://www.lilug.org My blog
>>>>>>>>> "The Civilization Gene" http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com
>>>>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood"
>>>>>>>>> http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com Giselle's husband,
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/ If you don't read the
>>>>>>>>> newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper
>>>>>>>>> you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain
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>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net A.S. in Computer
>>>>> Science, SUNY Farmingdale President of LILUG; president at lilug.org,
>>>>> http://www.lilug.org My blog "The Civilization Gene"
>>>>> http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com Author; "Thicker Than Blood"
>>>>> http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com Giselle's husband, Sebastian
>>>>> and Maxximus's father. http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/ If you
>>>>> don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the
>>>>> newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain
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>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>> My blog "The Civilization Gene" http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com
>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
>> If we are reincarnated after we die, and time in between lives is not 
>> linear,
>> who to say we are not all the same person.
>> 
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>
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> Sean Carnes
> Webair Internet Development, Inc.
> Phone: 1 866 WEBAIR 1
> Fax: 516.938.5100
> http://www.webair.com
> sean.carnes at webair.com
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Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
My blog "The Civilization Gene" http://civgene.matthewnewhall.com
Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
"our currency, but your problem."
 	-- U.S. Treasury Secretary John Connally
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