[Lilug] The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture

[Anthony Ehrhardt]

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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM, M Spizzirri <caust12 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all;
>
> If you like the relevance and efficiency of google, but not their
> questionable tracking and privacy issues, you can use
> http://www.scroogle.org/ .
>
> --Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lewis G Rosenthal <lgrosenthal at 2rosenthals.com>
> To: LILUG Mailing List <lilug at lilug.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:42:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lilug] The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture
>
> (Bottom posted.)
>
> On 02/10/09 11:06 am, Peter Capazzi thus wrote :
> > IMHO - Google is the best one-stop shop for just about everything. Page
> searches is one thing... I like to do price comparisons with Google
> Shopping... Maps is great and I get a kick out of using the API. I used to
> be big fan of searching newsgroups through them, but I think web pages now
> turn up more relevant information.
> >  However, if I come across one site that beats one of the facets of
> Google I'd probably use it primarily. Like if I'm aware of a site that I can
> do comparison shopping with that is simpler or farther reaching than Google
> Shopping I'd use it exclusively.
> >
> > I don't see how... but if some site did web page searches better than
> Google I would use both until I was sure I was getting better results. I
> would sacrifice some ease of use... but not much.
> >  I thought there was a woman out there (ex-Google employee?) that was
> going to start her own search engine. Funny that if you put in Search Engine
> as a search term the first entry from Google is Dogpile Web Search.
> >
> >         I personally wonder who will be the first to volunteer to stop
> >         using Google.  In my experience, it's the only search engine
> >         that finds exactly what I'm looking for almost every time.
> >     Its not about volunteering to stop using google, at least not in
> >     the way you seem to be thinking. I'm not suggesting taking the GNU
> >     approach of we will rewrite a perfectly good system so we can
> >     control it. Something will come along that is better than google,
> >     and it probably won't be a search engine like we think of them
> >     today. People will "volunteer" to stop using google the way they
> >     "volunteer" to use google today. Not as some sort of sacrifice,
> >     but because its in their best immediate interest.
> >
> >     We already have plenty of websites that copy wikipedia (where
> >     google often takes you) verbatim. and plenty of websites like
> >    answers.com <http://answers.com> and stackoverflow that use
> >     crowdsourcing in different ways. No one seems to have the magic
> >     formula yet, but it will happen. Somewhere between google and
> >     Stephen Baxter's scenario, will be a search engine thats different
> >     from google and somehow better.
> >
> >
> Indeed, back in the day, I started using Alta Vista. Someone introduced me
> to Google, and the sheer lightness of the page made it attractive (I was on
> dialup with a LAN modem at the time).
>
> The free market system works: Google just happens to do what it does (for
> me, at least) better than any other. I'm not married to Google, and should a
> better mousetrap come along, I'll gladly try it, but for now, it seems to be
> the best thing going.
>
> Just another couple cents to throw into the mix...
>
> -- Lewis
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