[Lilug Planning] Potential speaker.

John Teddy MasterJediYoda at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 20:52:01 PDT 2011 

There are a lot of people who know about bit coin. You don't need the
project lead. I speculate several people can be found in the NY area,
including those who setup bitcoin websites, etc.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know if my earlier fwd'd email made it to the planning list but he
> wrote back saying he's too busy. I think we missed our chance.
> -J
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:54 AM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't received an answer from him yet. I'll try writing him again, I
>> know he was traveling in Europe so that may be why he hasn't written back
>> yet. He updated his blog today so perhaps he's contactable now.
>>  -J
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:51 AM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>        I'm with you.  If it can still happen lets do it.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Mike Costanzo wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'd like to bump this thread.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still *very* interested in this talk and by no means is it too early
>>>> to
>>>> plan for July.
>>>> J do you have any updates on this contact?
>>>> If he is too busy can he recommend another knowledgeable speaker?
>>>>
>>>> As to speculating on how much a meeting about Bitcoin will devolve into
>>>> a
>>>> flat-out argument, I'm not overly-worried.
>>>> I'd advise a speaker to prepare an outline that mainly covers the facts
>>>> and
>>>> to take minimal questions during the body of the talk. Then when it is
>>>> over
>>>> we can tear into the whole "is this good, bad, or BS" discussion. More
>>>> specifically, to split the discussion into 1) what is it, how does it
>>>> work,
>>>> what is its current status, and 2) what are the implications.
>>>>
>>>> I know we covered quite a bit informally at the last meeting but I think
>>>> there is still much to be said.
>>>>
>>>> So is interest still alive among those on the planning list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I've emailed him again but haven't received a response yet. We may have
>>>>> missed the boat because of the recent popularity I'll let you know
>>>>> when/if
>>>>> he responds.
>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Any luck with solidifying this for June?  J were you going to
>>>>>> contact him?  If not can we help?  Can you send us his email so we can
>>>>>> contact him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Sorry but I'm not counting on those guys from biotech.  Think I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> getting smoke blown up my skirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, odinson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Mark I totally agree, an see it coming too.  Money is a hot
>>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>>> Nobody has enough.  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Love it or hate it, the Linux geeks are the first and vastly
>>>>>>> prominent experts on the combination of open design and the interface
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> that and community.  Not to mention the crossover to cryptographic
>>>>>>> math, and
>>>>>>> sustainable practices.  On this topic we are on par with the other
>>>>>>> appropriate parties, economists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       So look at it this way.  An economics group would be having the
>>>>>>> mirror arguments.  IMO, they should cover it as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       The sensibility in use of open engineering is as important as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> details of implementation.  Strategy vs tactics.  Only the lucky get
>>>>>>> anything done without both.  Not selling bitcoin mind you, but there
>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>> lots more to come in the 'design, share, debug, test, replace' space.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> very idea of Linux and open source will be challenged.  I think we
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> keep up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       One thing to look out for... We cannot endorse this as a group
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> matter we think.  I don't think it's expressly illegal, but it does
>>>>>>> compete
>>>>>>> with the dollar and uncle sam, which would most definitely piss him
>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:20, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Yup, done some research.  Politically folk may not like
>>>>>>>> bitcoin
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the like, but it will be a player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is my main concern with this talk.  It could easily devolve in
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> arguing about dollars, gold, intrinsic value, inflation, the federal
>>>>>>> reserve, national debt, etc.  It'll definitely be entertaining.  I
>>>>>>> guess ultimately LILUG is its members.  It'll be up to our members
>>>>>>> what this meeting becomes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Lets get him, even if we have to pay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It would be sad if open source digital currency took off and we
>>>>>>>> missed
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       J you are in contact with him right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, ~ ~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  guys was there ever a resolution about inviting this speaker?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since I sent this out Bitcoin has become quite infamous, atm
>>>>>>>>> bitcoins
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> trading 1 = 18 USD !! We may not be able to get this guy soon, let
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> if I should go ahead and give him a yes or not.
>>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Matt Surico <surico at mail.buoy.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 05/16/2011 08:56 AM, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Just forwarding Jason's message to the planning list.  Further
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion should happen there.  FWIW, I'd be interested in
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>>>>>> this talk.  Definitely not directly related to Linux, but it is
>>>>>>>>>>> powered by free software, and it's definitely better than not
>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> topic at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I agree with Mark.  Don't know if Gavin was already planning a
>>>>>>>>>> trip
>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> NY on his own, so if not, we'd have to have a planning discussion
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> might be able to help fund his trip down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Matt S.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Mark.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: ~ ~<hydratek at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:06
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Government] Potential speaker.
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Lilug Government<government at lilug.**org<government at lilug.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you have been aware of my interest in a open source
>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>> called bitcoin for a few years now. It's a system of digital
>>>>>>>>>>> currency
>>>>>>>>>>> based on proof-of-work, public keys and crypto. Recently it's
>>>>>>>>>>> adoption
>>>>>>>>>>> has grown to the point where there are several exchange markets
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> trading/services available. For instance one can now donate to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> EFF
>>>>>>>>>>> via bitcoin.
>>>>>>>>>>> Recently one of the core developers has been asked to speak at
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> CIA
>>>>>>>>>>> (in-q-tel their blue sky division) about bitcoin. While we
>>>>>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>>> about this on IRC I asked this developer if he'd ever consider
>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>> to lilug to speak with us about bitcoin. To my suprise he said
>>>>>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> I figured I'd turn the discussion over to the Gov list and see if
>>>>>>>>>>> there was any interest. The developers name is Gavin Andresen,
>>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>>> located in Amherst, MA.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**
>>>>>>>> thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>>>>> When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his
>>>>>>>> friends.
>>>>>>>>       -- Japanese Proverb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**
>>>>>>> thickerthanbloodthebook.com <http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>>>> When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
>>>>>>>       -- Japanese Proverb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>>> Without the efficiencies of economy of scale affording us our
>>>>>> civilizations leasure time and it's intelligence, we could never learn
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> -------------------
>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>> The mechanics of economics may restrict your whims and ruin your plans,
>>> but they
>>> cannot undermine your principals.  Your life is your own.
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