[Lilug Planning] Potential speaker.

~ ~ hydratek at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 20:44:29 PDT 2011 

I don't know if my earlier fwd'd email made it to the planning list but he
wrote back saying he's too busy. I think we missed our chance.
-J

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:54 AM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't received an answer from him yet. I'll try writing him again, I
> know he was traveling in Europe so that may be why he hasn't written back
> yet. He updated his blog today so perhaps he's contactable now.
> -J
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:51 AM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>        I'm with you.  If it can still happen lets do it.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Mike Costanzo wrote:
>>
>>  I'd like to bump this thread.
>>>
>>> I'm still *very* interested in this talk and by no means is it too early
>>> to
>>> plan for July.
>>> J do you have any updates on this contact?
>>> If he is too busy can he recommend another knowledgeable speaker?
>>>
>>> As to speculating on how much a meeting about Bitcoin will devolve into a
>>> flat-out argument, I'm not overly-worried.
>>> I'd advise a speaker to prepare an outline that mainly covers the facts
>>> and
>>> to take minimal questions during the body of the talk. Then when it is
>>> over
>>> we can tear into the whole "is this good, bad, or BS" discussion. More
>>> specifically, to split the discussion into 1) what is it, how does it
>>> work,
>>> what is its current status, and 2) what are the implications.
>>>
>>> I know we covered quite a bit informally at the last meeting but I think
>>> there is still much to be said.
>>>
>>> So is interest still alive among those on the planning list?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I've emailed him again but haven't received a response yet. We may have
>>>> missed the boat because of the recent popularity I'll let you know
>>>> when/if
>>>> he responds.
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>       Any luck with solidifying this for June?  J were you going to
>>>>> contact him?  If not can we help?  Can you send us his email so we can
>>>>> contact him?
>>>>>
>>>>>       Sorry but I'm not counting on those guys from biotech.  Think I
>>>>> was
>>>>> getting smoke blown up my skirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, odinson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Mark I totally agree, an see it coming too.  Money is a hot
>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>> Nobody has enough.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Love it or hate it, the Linux geeks are the first and vastly
>>>>>> prominent experts on the combination of open design and the interface
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> that and community.  Not to mention the crossover to cryptographic
>>>>>> math, and
>>>>>> sustainable practices.  On this topic we are on par with the other
>>>>>> appropriate parties, economists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       So look at it this way.  An economics group would be having the
>>>>>> mirror arguments.  IMO, they should cover it as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       The sensibility in use of open engineering is as important as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> details of implementation.  Strategy vs tactics.  Only the lucky get
>>>>>> anything done without both.  Not selling bitcoin mind you, but there
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>> lots more to come in the 'design, share, debug, test, replace' space.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> very idea of Linux and open source will be challenged.  I think we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> keep up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       One thing to look out for... We cannot endorse this as a group
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> matter we think.  I don't think it's expressly illegal, but it does
>>>>>> compete
>>>>>> with the dollar and uncle sam, which would most definitely piss him
>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:20, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Yup, done some research.  Politically folk may not like bitcoin
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the like, but it will be a player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my main concern with this talk.  It could easily devolve in to
>>>>>> arguing about dollars, gold, intrinsic value, inflation, the federal
>>>>>> reserve, national debt, etc.  It'll definitely be entertaining.  I
>>>>>> guess ultimately LILUG is its members.  It'll be up to our members
>>>>>> what this meeting becomes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Lets get him, even if we have to pay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It would be sad if open source digital currency took off and we
>>>>>>> missed
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       J you are in contact with him right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, ~ ~ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  guys was there ever a resolution about inviting this speaker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since I sent this out Bitcoin has become quite infamous, atm
>>>>>>>> bitcoins
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> trading 1 = 18 USD !! We may not be able to get this guy soon, let
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> if I should go ahead and give him a yes or not.
>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Matt Surico <surico at mail.buoy.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 05/16/2011 08:56 AM, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Just forwarding Jason's message to the planning list.  Further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> discussion should happen there.  FWIW, I'd be interested in
>>>>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>>>>> this talk.  Definitely not directly related to Linux, but it is
>>>>>>>>>> powered by free software, and it's definitely better than not
>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> topic at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I agree with Mark.  Don't know if Gavin was already planning a
>>>>>>>>> trip
>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> NY on his own, so if not, we'd have to have a planning discussion
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> might be able to help fund his trip down.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Matt S.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Mark.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> From: ~ ~<hydratek at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:06
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Government] Potential speaker.
>>>>>>>>>> To: Lilug Government<government at lilug.**org<government at lilug.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> Many of you have been aware of my interest in a open source
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> called bitcoin for a few years now. It's a system of digital
>>>>>>>>>> currency
>>>>>>>>>> based on proof-of-work, public keys and crypto. Recently it's
>>>>>>>>>> adoption
>>>>>>>>>> has grown to the point where there are several exchange markets
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> trading/services available. For instance one can now donate to the
>>>>>>>>>> EFF
>>>>>>>>>> via bitcoin.
>>>>>>>>>> Recently one of the core developers has been asked to speak at the
>>>>>>>>>> CIA
>>>>>>>>>> (in-q-tel their blue sky division) about bitcoin. While we talking
>>>>>>>>>> about this on IRC I asked this developer if he'd ever consider
>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> to lilug to speak with us about bitcoin. To my suprise he said
>>>>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> I figured I'd turn the discussion over to the Gov list and see if
>>>>>>>>>> there was any interest. The developers name is Gavin Andresen,
>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>> located in Amherst, MA.
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**
>>>>>>> thickerthanbloodthebook.com <http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
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>>>>>>>       -- Japanese Proverb
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>>> When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
>>>>>>       -- Japanese Proverb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>> -------------------
>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>> Without the efficiencies of economy of scale affording us our
>>>>> civilizations leasure time and it's intelligence, we could never learn
>>>>> to
>>>>> hate it.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> -------------------
>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>> The mechanics of economics may restrict your whims and ruin your plans,
>> but they
>> cannot undermine your principals.  Your life is your own.
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