[Lilug Planning] Potential speaker.

odinson odinson at warcloud.net
Mon Jun 27 23:51:47 PDT 2011 

Hi

 	I'm with you.  If it can still happen lets do it.

Matt


On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Mike Costanzo wrote:

> I'd like to bump this thread.
>
> I'm still *very* interested in this talk and by no means is it too early to
> plan for July.
> J do you have any updates on this contact?
> If he is too busy can he recommend another knowledgeable speaker?
>
> As to speculating on how much a meeting about Bitcoin will devolve into a
> flat-out argument, I'm not overly-worried.
> I'd advise a speaker to prepare an outline that mainly covers the facts and
> to take minimal questions during the body of the talk. Then when it is over
> we can tear into the whole "is this good, bad, or BS" discussion. More
> specifically, to split the discussion into 1) what is it, how does it work,
> what is its current status, and 2) what are the implications.
>
> I know we covered quite a bit informally at the last meeting but I think
> there is still much to be said.
>
> So is interest still alive among those on the planning list?
>
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've emailed him again but haven't received a response yet. We may have
>> missed the boat because of the recent popularity I'll let you know when/if
>> he responds.
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>        Any luck with solidifying this for June?  J were you going to
>>> contact him?  If not can we help?  Can you send us his email so we can
>>> contact him?
>>>
>>>        Sorry but I'm not counting on those guys from biotech.  Think I was
>>> getting smoke blown up my skirt.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, odinson wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi
>>>>
>>>>        Mark I totally agree, an see it coming too.  Money is a hot topic.
>>>> Nobody has enough.  :)
>>>>
>>>>        Love it or hate it, the Linux geeks are the first and vastly
>>>> prominent experts on the combination of open design and the interface of
>>>> that and community.  Not to mention the crossover to cryptographic math, and
>>>> sustainable practices.  On this topic we are on par with the other
>>>> appropriate parties, economists.
>>>>
>>>>        So look at it this way.  An economics group would be having the
>>>> mirror arguments.  IMO, they should cover it as well.
>>>>
>>>>        The sensibility in use of open engineering is as important as the
>>>> details of implementation.  Strategy vs tactics.  Only the lucky get
>>>> anything done without both.  Not selling bitcoin mind you, but there will be
>>>> lots more to come in the 'design, share, debug, test, replace' space. The
>>>> very idea of Linux and open source will be challenged.  I think we should
>>>> keep up.
>>>>
>>>>        One thing to look out for... We cannot endorse this as a group no
>>>> matter we think.  I don't think it's expressly illegal, but it does compete
>>>> with the dollar and uncle sam, which would most definitely piss him off.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:20, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>        Yup, done some research.  Politically folk may not like bitcoin
>>>>> and
>>>>> the like, but it will be a player.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is my main concern with this talk.  It could easily devolve in to
>>>> arguing about dollars, gold, intrinsic value, inflation, the federal
>>>> reserve, national debt, etc.  It'll definitely be entertaining.  I
>>>> guess ultimately LILUG is its members.  It'll be up to our members
>>>> what this meeting becomes.
>>>>
>>>>  Lets get him, even if we have to pay.
>>>>>  It would be sad if open source digital currency took off and we missed
>>>>> this
>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>
>>>>>        J you are in contact with him right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, ~ ~ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  guys was there ever a resolution about inviting this speaker?
>>>>>> Since I sent this out Bitcoin has become quite infamous, atm bitcoins
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> trading 1 = 18 USD !! We may not be able to get this guy soon, let me
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> if I should go ahead and give him a yes or not.
>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Matt Surico <surico at mail.buoy.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 05/16/2011 08:56 AM, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Just forwarding Jason's message to the planning list.  Further
>>>>>>>> discussion should happen there.  FWIW, I'd be interested in hearing
>>>>>>>> this talk.  Definitely not directly related to Linux, but it is
>>>>>>>> powered by free software, and it's definitely better than not having
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> topic at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Mark.  Don't know if Gavin was already planning a trip
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> NY on his own, so if not, we'd have to have a planning discussion on
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> might be able to help fund his trip down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Matt S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: ~ ~<hydratek at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:06
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Government] Potential speaker.
>>>>>>>> To: Lilug Government<government at lilug.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> Many of you have been aware of my interest in a open source project
>>>>>>>> called bitcoin for a few years now. It's a system of digital currency
>>>>>>>> based on proof-of-work, public keys and crypto. Recently it's
>>>>>>>> adoption
>>>>>>>> has grown to the point where there are several exchange markets and
>>>>>>>> trading/services available. For instance one can now donate to the
>>>>>>>> EFF
>>>>>>>> via bitcoin.
>>>>>>>> Recently one of the core developers has been asked to speak at the
>>>>>>>> CIA
>>>>>>>> (in-q-tel their blue sky division) about bitcoin. While we talking
>>>>>>>> about this on IRC I asked this developer if he'd ever consider coming
>>>>>>>> to lilug to speak with us about bitcoin. To my suprise he said yes,
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> I figured I'd turn the discussion over to the Gov list and see if
>>>>>>>> there was any interest. The developers name is Gavin Andresen, he's
>>>>>>>> located in Amherst, MA.
>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>> -Jason
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>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
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>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
>>>> When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
>>>>        -- Japanese Proverb
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>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
>>> Without the efficiencies of economy of scale affording us our
>>> civilizations leasure time and it's intelligence, we could never learn to
>>> hate it.
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A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com
Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
http://www.warcloud.net/~odinson/us/
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