[Lilug Planning] Potential speaker.

Tue Jun 28 00:54:51 PDT 2011

I haven't received an answer from him yet. I'll try writing him again, I
know he was traveling in Europe so that may be why he hasn't written back
yet. He updated his blog today so perhaps he's contactable now.
-J

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:51 AM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:

> Hi
>
>        I'm with you.  If it can still happen lets do it.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Mike Costanzo wrote:
>
>  I'd like to bump this thread.
>>
>> I'm still *very* interested in this talk and by no means is it too early
>> to
>> plan for July.
>> J do you have any updates on this contact?
>> If he is too busy can he recommend another knowledgeable speaker?
>>
>> As to speculating on how much a meeting about Bitcoin will devolve into a
>> flat-out argument, I'm not overly-worried.
>> I'd advise a speaker to prepare an outline that mainly covers the facts
>> and
>> to take minimal questions during the body of the talk. Then when it is
>> over
>> we can tear into the whole "is this good, bad, or BS" discussion. More
>> specifically, to split the discussion into 1) what is it, how does it
>> work,
>> what is its current status, and 2) what are the implications.
>>
>> I know we covered quite a bit informally at the last meeting but I think
>> there is still much to be said.
>>
>> So is interest still alive among those on the planning list?
>>
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM, ~ ~ <hydratek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I've emailed him again but haven't received a response yet. We may have
>>> missed the boat because of the recent popularity I'll let you know
>>> when/if
>>> he responds.
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi
>>>>
>>>>       Any luck with solidifying this for June?  J were you going to
>>>> contact him?  If not can we help?  Can you send us his email so we can
>>>> contact him?
>>>>
>>>>       Sorry but I'm not counting on those guys from biotech.  Think I
>>>> was
>>>> getting smoke blown up my skirt.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, odinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Mark I totally agree, an see it coming too.  Money is a hot
>>>>> topic.
>>>>> Nobody has enough.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>       Love it or hate it, the Linux geeks are the first and vastly
>>>>> prominent experts on the combination of open design and the interface
>>>>> of
>>>>> that and community.  Not to mention the crossover to cryptographic
>>>>> math, and
>>>>> sustainable practices.  On this topic we are on par with the other
>>>>> appropriate parties, economists.
>>>>>
>>>>>       So look at it this way.  An economics group would be having the
>>>>> mirror arguments.  IMO, they should cover it as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>       The sensibility in use of open engineering is as important as the
>>>>> details of implementation.  Strategy vs tactics.  Only the lucky get
>>>>> anything done without both.  Not selling bitcoin mind you, but there
>>>>> will be
>>>>> lots more to come in the 'design, share, debug, test, replace' space.
>>>>> The
>>>>> very idea of Linux and open source will be challenged.  I think we
>>>>> should
>>>>> keep up.
>>>>>
>>>>>       One thing to look out for... We cannot endorse this as a group no
>>>>> matter we think.  I don't think it's expressly illegal, but it does
>>>>> compete
>>>>> with the dollar and uncle sam, which would most definitely piss him
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:20, odinson <odinson at warcloud.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Yup, done some research.  Politically folk may not like bitcoin
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the like, but it will be a player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This is my main concern with this talk.  It could easily devolve in to
>>>>> arguing about dollars, gold, intrinsic value, inflation, the federal
>>>>> reserve, national debt, etc.  It'll definitely be entertaining.  I
>>>>> guess ultimately LILUG is its members.  It'll be up to our members
>>>>> what this meeting becomes.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Lets get him, even if we have to pay.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  It would be sad if open source digital currency took off and we
>>>>>> missed
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       J you are in contact with him right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, ~ ~ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  guys was there ever a resolution about inviting this speaker?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since I sent this out Bitcoin has become quite infamous, atm bitcoins
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> trading 1 = 18 USD !! We may not be able to get this guy soon, let me
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> if I should go ahead and give him a yes or not.
>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Matt Surico <surico at mail.buoy.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 05/16/2011 08:56 AM, Mark Drago wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Just forwarding Jason's message to the planning list.  Further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> discussion should happen there.  FWIW, I'd be interested in hearing
>>>>>>>>> this talk.  Definitely not directly related to Linux, but it is
>>>>>>>>> powered by free software, and it's definitely better than not
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> topic at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I agree with Mark.  Don't know if Gavin was already planning a
>>>>>>>> trip
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> NY on his own, so if not, we'd have to have a planning discussion on
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> might be able to help fund his trip down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Matt S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Mark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: ~ ~<hydratek at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:06
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Government] Potential speaker.
>>>>>>>>> To: Lilug Government<government at lilug.**org <government at lilug.org>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> Many of you have been aware of my interest in a open source project
>>>>>>>>> called bitcoin for a few years now. It's a system of digital
>>>>>>>>> currency
>>>>>>>>> based on proof-of-work, public keys and crypto. Recently it's
>>>>>>>>> adoption
>>>>>>>>> has grown to the point where there are several exchange markets and
>>>>>>>>> trading/services available. For instance one can now donate to the
>>>>>>>>> EFF
>>>>>>>>> via bitcoin.
>>>>>>>>> Recently one of the core developers has been asked to speak at the
>>>>>>>>> CIA
>>>>>>>>> (in-q-tel their blue sky division) about bitcoin. While we talking
>>>>>>>>> about this on IRC I asked this developer if he'd ever consider
>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> to lilug to speak with us about bitcoin. To my suprise he said yes,
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> I figured I'd turn the discussion over to the Gov list and see if
>>>>>>>>> there was any interest. The developers name is Gavin Andresen, he's
>>>>>>>>> located in Amherst, MA.
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
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>>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>>> When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
>>>>>       -- Japanese Proverb
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
>>>> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
>>>> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
>>>> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
>>>> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
>>>> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
>>>> Without the efficiencies of economy of scale affording us our
>>>> civilizations leasure time and it's intelligence, we could never learn
>>>> to
>>>> hate it.
>>>>
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> Matthew Newhall, M.A.Newhall at warcloud.net
> A.S. in Computer Science, SUNY Farmingdale
> President of LILUG;  president at lilug.org, http://www.lilug.org
> Author; "Thicker Than Blood" http://www.**thickerthanbloodthebook.com<http://www.thickerthanbloodthebook.com>
> Giselle's husband, Sebastian and Maxximus's father.
> http://www.warcloud.net/~**odinson/us/<http://www.warcloud.net/%7Eodinson/us/>
> The mechanics of economics may restrict your whims and ruin your plans, but
> they
> cannot undermine your principals.  Your life is your own.
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